Post by BroJames on Jan 6, 2008 19:40:54 GMT -5
Those who insist that there are inconsistensies or discrepancies and spoke of BHe with so much personal hatred can utilize their time more productively by searching and looking for discrepancies in the bibles of which more than 700 "inconsistencies" have been noted. After searching and looking for answers, perhaps they will one day become better and more objective persons.
But are there really inconsistencies or do they exists only in the idle minds and jealous hearts of detractors whose heart are consumed by hatred, prejudice, bigotry, condemnation, jealousy, or maybe what is known as Crab or Talangka Mentality, where like crabs or talangka in a basin,, one keeps pulling another down?
Let's look at the greatest book ever written to find some answers on inconsistencies. People with open minds understands that the Bible is not a science textbook, nor a biology textbook, nor a geology textbook. Indeed, we have just seen that the Bible includes arithmetic that would not pass muster in elementary school classrooms.
For example Genesis 11:26 how Abraham's father, Terah, was 70 years old at the time of Abraham's birth. Genesis 11:32 tells how Terah died in Ha'ran, at the ripe old age of 205. In the very next verse, Genesis 12:1, the Lord tells Abraham to leave his late father's house to seek out a new land. But three verses later, in Genesis 12:4, we are told that Abraham was but 75 years old when he left Ha'ran to go to Canaan.
Adding 70 (Terah's age at Abraham's birth) to 75 (Abraham's age at Terah's death) yields a sum of 145 years for Terah's age, in direct conflict with the figure of 205 years given in Genesis 11:32. Confirmation that Abraham left Ha'ran after the death of his father appears in the New Testament, in Acts 7:4.
Just because these cannot be "explained" doesn't mean that they don't exist or are not true. Healthy religion contains the spirit of debate, like Jacob wrestling with the angel. The fundamentalist attitude that "everything is carved in stone, finished" is unsustainable.
Just as you can make any sentence you like from the dictionary by choosing certain words, you can prove any point you want by juggling the millions of concepts in the Bible. This is something that both Christians and Jews are adept at. Again, the intention is what matters. The Zohar says something to the effect that: "If people are discussing Torah, and they disagree, it doesn't matter, what's important is that they are talking about Torah."
Is the Firefox 1600mAh really 1100mAh or 1200mAh?
Hundreds of batteries were sent to various labs/factories for testing and sometimes, a 2nd or 3rd batch is requested. Some test shows that it is only 1100 to 1200mAh, others 1000 to 1100mAh, some 1100-1200mah (All rounded to the nearest 100, not 50). I recall that the lowest is only 950mah. A few other tests were described as "crude tests".
In this respect, any figure between 950mAh and 1200mAh is accurate and a statement of fact.
You said you will not question the results of an objective review so why are you questioning the Vislero versus BHe review?
The answer is already in the question. I said if the author simply compare the results (without the obvious bias and comments that the oversized and overjuiced Vislero r/c helicopter battery as superior conveniently disregarding their difference in size and that the actual specs are actually higher than labelled) then I have nothing to question or clarify.
My primary detractor is not new to batteries. He has imported trial orders from IMAX before but IMAX won't sell to him anymore because of low purchase volume. He then shifts to Vislero to place a trial order and can't place another low volume order. In fact, he emailed Yuntong but Yuntong, our manufacturer, referred them to us and he purchased BHe batteries from us (But now he questioned where BHe is really made as if he does not know).
And yes, the owners or manufacturers, aside from the misrepresentations made by my principal detractor in order to convince them to sell a small trial order, are not happy with the way their products are being marketed and misrepresented.
He knows that the true specs of the Vislero is much superior and the comparison is therefore inaccurate and misleading. Vislero is top of the line while BHe is targetted towards airsoft players most ofd whom have 400-500fps spring setups. But what better way to sell a slow moving battery than to compare it with a popular battery even knowing in his heart that there is no accurate point of comparison.
The BHe is "tamed down" to suit airsoft needs. By that, I mean some compound has been injected into it to limit is power. Something was also done to its "tab" to reduce current flowing to it. Others I cannot reveal as they are trade secrets. If we compare Vislero from the point of view of its true specs, Vislero too is tamed down.
Vislero, as can be seen in their website is a r/c airplane/helicopter battery. Some R/C helicopter batteries even have higher voltage, higher mAh and higher "C" to give the R/C helicopter that extra power to stay in the air longer or win competitions. We don't squeeze our airsoft guns for the entire game, like an airplane/helicopter must stay in the air the entire competition, do we? Vislero is also exported to Europe where a battery must perform according to specs at any time within its warranty period. In short, all batteries exported or sold in Europe are overjuiced so that even at the end of the warranty period, say 2 or 3 years, they still perform like brand new even if the voltage, "C" and mAh (among others) have in fact dropped with time as all batttery does.
My primary detractors knows this and we view the review as a misleading marketing ploy. Participants in the review may be willing partners or victims of misleading information themselves.
Oh yes, I am not against Vislero as we, through Brightstar Electronics, are the exclusive distributors of Vislero in the Philippines and are allowed to prefix our names before Vislero (ex BHe-Vislero).
You say Vislero is overjuiced but you also said it is tamed down. Isn't that inconsistent?
Yes, that may seem to be the case but if your reread what I said very carefully there is no inconsistency. But these are the types of supposed inconsistencies my detractors would love to point out.
If we look at the Vislero based on what is printed on the label then it is overjuiced because it was made to be more powerful than what it really is labelled. But if you know the true specs of the Vislero (the lithium sheets from which it is made from and its true "C", true voltage and true mAh, among others) and some of the things they have done to reduce that power slightly so as not to compete with some of its own products based on the same lithium sheets, then we say the Vislero is actually "tamed down" because its power or performance potential is even higher. Just like the BHe is tamed down to suit airsoft needs.
The Guarder high speed motor that is used has a 40,000RPM at 8.4v. Guarder Infinite gears have a 32:1 gear ratio meaning for every 32 revolutions of the motor the last gear, the sector gear, will rotate and pull the spring only once. In order to achieve a ROF of 1800 rounds per minute (30 rounds per second), the RPM of the Guarder High Speed Motor must spin at 57,600 RPM (1,800ROF x 32 Infinite Gear Ratio). In order for the Guarder High Speed Motor to spin at 60,000 RPM requires a 13.5v power supply. A typical Li-Poly is only 12.6v at full charge.
I am talking about BHe and Vislero as master dealer of both BHe and Vislero. These 2 batteries are intended for 2 separate purpose and a comparison between them is unfair and inaccurate. In fact, we recommend the Vislero 15C for M170 springs or higher and the Vislero 20C for M190 Springs. Vislero also has a 30C Li-poly distributed under BHe. The BHe 2150mAh is recommended for M130-M150 springs although BHe has a 3050mAh LiPoly for higher springs.
Tidbits. Sanyo sold in the Philippines as labeled around 2700mAh but the very same battery is labeled 2100mAh in Europe. I cannot recall the exact figures but what a just stated is pretty much the case. There is no lie nor inconsistency in this just different methods of calculating the mAh (or different standards) for different markets